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Spunkymonkey
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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 10:41 pm

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Wesley wrote:
  ... the removal of brake discs on the previous SN ...
 

I was puzzled by that, after seeing it in a previous post here, but wouldn't RFR 3.5.1.h ("a brake disc or drum in such a condition that it is seriously weakened or insecure") still cover ones that really are excessively worn?  Of course, that requires a professional judgement  by the tester, without  a manufacturer's figure to back it up, that VOSA may (in fact, probably will???) disagree with in the event of a customer complaint :? 

But I never said I envied you guys your jobs ;)

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 10:10 pm

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Stealth wrote: With around 35% of all cars failing the MOT, and around 50% for class VII vans etc - plus around 25% of all cars & vans checked at VOSA road checks being given prohibition notices at present, I wonder what planet they are on - Utopia perhaps !!!!

 

:(:(:(:(:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

our reports (class 1V), on average are at a 50% failure rate, (four testers) with very few abnormal values.

one commented today after reading and acknowleging the SN, about the removal of brake discs on the previous SN and leaflets on the latest SN, that if they also removed some steering requirements and made some changes to tread depth requirements? eg:- slicks.

then we might all just manage to afford a one way ticket to "uranus"!:shock:

 

 

 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 07:03 pm

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Nice to know the job of Downing Street advisor and knowledge of all relevant facts are still mutually exclusive. Maybe he saw a potential area of cost cutting. After all it'd half the amount of stationery they'd have to print. Or for a year at least. Maybe they'll just stick VAT on it instead:D

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 06:19 pm

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As it's the mail, it's quite possibly old (or made up)news anyway.
They obviously don't check their facts or proofread very well
1st they claim the MOT is £58 then later on they get it right The maximum fee for testing private motor vehicles increased on April 6 by around 1.5 per cent. This raised the maximum cost of a test for a private car from £54 to £54.85

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 04:29 pm

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With around 35% of all cars failing the MOT, and around 50% for class VII vans etc - plus around 25% of all cars & vans checked at VOSA road checks being given prohibition notices at present, I wonder what planet they are on - Utopia perhaps !!!!

 

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 02:55 pm

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No, no, no, no, NO!!!!

As a punter who does all his own repairs and generally looks after his cars in between times, the MOT is invaluable.  If they want, I can also provide plenty of examples to any enquiry of things that already get missed on MOTs (through absolutely no fault of the tester) because of impossible access.  The splits near the seat mounts on my Triumph that were only visible with the carpets lifted spring to mind.

That sort of problem is likely to be fine for another year - by which time it may well have become visible - but leave it two years and you're likely to be falling through the floor.

Of course, we all know (;)) that the MOT scheme was invented as a get-rich-quick scheme for garages so they can do work (with extra paperwork and extra stress if things go wrong) at less than some of their normal hourly rates but, even if there was a shred of truth in that, it still gives a valuable safeguard, even for people who know their own cars inside-out - which the vast majority of motorists don't!

Rant over, now off to collect my partner's Daf and see if it's passed .......  :P

Edited to add:  That was easy - and a small price to pay for peace of mind (it would have cost more than that to hire a ramp and do the underbody checks myself :D)

Last edited on Thu Jul 15th, 2010 03:29 pm by Spunkymonkey

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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 10:18 am

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In spite of the previous government looking at this and deciding, after reading the 'MOT Scheme Evidence-Base' report of Nov 2008 which confirmed that it would result in more road deaths and injuries than it was worth, it has been reported in the 'Daily Mail' that the issue has been revived by Lord Marlesford, a former Downing Street adviser, who informed MOT Testing Magazine editor Jim Punter that he was not aware of the content of the report before putting his question to the House.

Jim Punter, having discussed the issue at length with Lord Marlesford, has now sent him a copy of the report.

Link to the MOT Scheme Evidence-base Report here.
http://www.motester.co.uk/TradeMagazines/MOTTestingMagazine/MOTSchemeEvidenceBaseReport.aspx

Link to the Daily Mail article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1294531/Government-review-MoT-rules-increase-time-garage-safety-checks.html?ITO=1490


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