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 Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2012 05:15 pm

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This subject of no MOT for 1960's or older is back in the motoring press. My line of thinking as an ex-tester, all cars need an annual inspection, as not all car enthusiast,as keen as they are,know what they have taken apart and what consequences of incorrect reassemble. Brakes, steering and suspension in my mind still need to be inspected. Why can't the government/ vosa do a drive train inspection on older cars, A wheels downwards inspection makes sence for safety.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2011 08:07 pm

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rocky69 wrote:
Nothing in this country is fair, the way we are all treated is discraceful.
Look at road tax, if like me your are working class trying to make ends meet with a 10 year old car you are nailed for road tax, I like to think I am helping the enviroment I keep my cars until the next repair is not viable then move on to another I can afford, I also have an old camper that I pay 215 per year to tax it might go on the road for 6 holidays a year 12 days on the road 215, the folk who can afford new cars are getting it at £30 a year but look at the impact on the enviroment to keep making the cars, how can that be right. By the time I have a car in that tax bracket it will be up to 215 again. But a 7.5 tonne HGV can tramp up and down the motorway all day for £165.:X:X:(


even when they first introduced the graded tax they had it all wrong , they went by engine size instead of year of manufacture .
all this meant was that smokey old polluters with knackered carbs got cheap tax , while something with a slightly bigger engine but cat equipped & therefore a lot cleaner was more to tax .

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 Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2011 12:30 pm

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Nothing in this country is fair, the way we are all treated is discraceful.
Look at road tax, if like me your are working class trying to make ends meet with a 10 year old car you are nailed for road tax, I like to think I am helping the enviroment I keep my cars until the next repair is not viable then move on to another I can afford, I also have an old camper that I pay 215 per year to tax it might go on the road for 6 holidays a year 12 days on the road 215, the folk who can afford new cars are getting it at £30 a year but look at the impact on the enviroment to keep making the cars, how can that be right. By the time I have a car in that tax bracket it will be up to 215 again. But a 7.5 tonne HGV can tramp up and down the motorway all day for £165.:X:X:(

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 Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2011 10:54 am

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Swings and roundabouts, I will loose half my MOT revenue, but on the other hand I have a 1959 AH 3000 so I won't need to MOT it.
Why do I think that something is not fair?
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 Posted: Fri Nov 11th, 2011 09:17 am

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Nice find Don

Found this interesting:

Whilst it is important to ensure that vehicles are safe to use on the highway, it is also important to ensure that regulations imposed are not excessive

I fear we'll see the the same wording on any consultation regarding 4-2-2, even if the failure rate is considerably higher for post 1960 vehicles.

We have a good testing system in this country, but crucially it is over and above EU directive's, and the document linked is full of wording that is justifying/bowing down to following the directive's more tightly.

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 Posted: Thu Nov 10th, 2011 08:12 am

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http://www.dft.gov.uk/news/statements/penning-20111103


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