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 Posted: Sun Mar 21st, 2010 07:45 pm

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Now there's a thought ! Hadn't considered the MGF. The front of the trike is a Lambretta scooter, and the back end is a Mini-Metro. It's called a  'Minietta'. I think the name 'Lambrini' would have been more suitable, but I think that name has already been taken by a certain drinks company. I haven't got it yet, but thought it might be worth restoring as a novelty.

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 Posted: Fri Mar 19th, 2010 11:34 pm

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Road Patrol wrote: I've been offered a trike, which uses a Metro front subframe and engine fitted to the rear of the machine. Obviously, it has no handbrake mechanism on the calipers. Would a trike pass an M.O.T without a handbrake ? I can't see someone building a trike which could never be legally used on the road ??

Hi Road Patrol,

No It Wouldn`t.;)

Surely All of those MGF`s In the Scrapyard, Would provide calipers with a parking brake option that could be fitted to your chosen option of strange mobility?:? 

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 Posted: Fri Mar 19th, 2010 07:40 pm

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hi kev

this might answer your question http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3i00000401.htm

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 Posted: Fri Mar 19th, 2010 05:21 pm

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Im not talking class 3 trikes here.
The lighter ones.
Dont know what class they are.
Anyone know?

kev

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 Posted: Thu Mar 18th, 2010 10:01 pm

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KevG wrote: Trikes dont need a handbrake "as long as they are not class 3"
if I remember rightly. They are effectively a motor cycle combination.
I will stand corrected though if I am wrong.

Kev



Very good Kev,;)

something to do with track width? "Matters of Testing"?;)

I think "Road Patrol" means a proper "Trike"?:?

ps; if I am wrong then I will stand corrected.;)


 

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Hi KevG,

               Stand corrected;)

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Trikes dont need a handbrake as long as they are not class 3
if I remember rightly. They are effectively a motor cycle combination.
I will stand corrected though if I am wrong.

Kev

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 Posted: Wed Mar 17th, 2010 10:38 pm

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Road Patrol wrote: I've been offered a trike, which uses a Metro front subframe and engine fitted to the rear of the machine. Obviously, it has no handbrake mechanism on the calipers. Would a trike pass an M.O.T without a handbrake ? I can't see someone building a trike which could never be legally used on the road ??
 

Do trikes depend on their weight?

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I've been offered a trike, which uses a Metro front subframe and engine fitted to the rear of the machine. Obviously, it has no handbrake mechanism on the calipers. Would a trike pass an M.O.T without a handbrake ? I can't see someone building a trike which could never be legally used on the road ??

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Yes now you mention it I do remember.... Mental.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 13th, 2010 07:36 pm

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do you not recall the special notice where some prick type approved quadricycles with a hydraulic handbrake and if you encounter one you is supposed to pass and advise that it might need a proper one fitting for a future test?

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Hi Rob.

Please Enlighten us..........

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 Posted: Fri Mar 12th, 2010 08:02 pm

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unless you have a quadricycle....

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Thanks uncle Stealth we have missed you!

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Wesley wrote:

"Stealth" will be along shortly to put us out of our confusion.;)

Haven't been around the PC much this week, but you seem to have managed to sort it out amongst yourselves :D

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Ok, that pretty much clears it up!

Thankyou

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 Posted: Tue Mar 9th, 2010 03:55 pm

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Hi again Nevtiger.

 

A modern parking brake is purely mechanical/electromechanical, no hydraulics are allowed on vehicles registered AFTER 1/1/1968. Although hydraulics may be used to assist the operation of the brake.

After the above date, the brake must be capable of being maintained in operation by direct mechanical action only.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 9th, 2010 12:06 pm

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Ok,

if I understand a modern system correctly then the handbrake is applied hydraulically and controlled electrically. Surely, therefore, a modern VW/Merc has no mechanical parking brake independent or otherwise.

So how would that differ from a seperate hydraulic parking brake on a classic? I have just asked the Tester who has tested my Tiger - which is conventional at the moment - and he seemed to think a fully independant hydraulic parking brake would beok as it would pass all the tests he carries out??????

Does the MOT handbook state no none mechanical parking brakes because that would settle things!

Cheers for all your help

Nev

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 Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 07:52 pm

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I know what you mean by the brake on a XJS. but its not a true fly off handbrake.
Many sports cars, especially British marquess like MG and Triumph, as late as the early 1970s were offered with a fly-off handbrakes as optional extras for competition use.

The button on the end of the lever has to be pressed before the brake will lock on, which is the reverse of the normal arrangement, allowing for faster and more controlled application in a handbrake turn, and is less liable to be accidentally locked on while doing such a stunt.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 8th, 2010 07:48 pm

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Good Plan Wes, That is an option.

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