MOT Forum - The MOT Testing Forum for the UK MOT Testing Industry Home


Search
   
Members

Calendar

Help

Home
Search by username
Not logged in - Login | Register 

MOT Test MOT Test MOT Test
Emissions fail after pass
MOT Test MOT Test MOT Test
 Moderated by: Tom James, MOTman, KevG  

New Topic

Reply

Print
AuthorPost
bimmer
Member
 

Joined: Fri Sep 4th, 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 478
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Sat Apr 10th, 2010 11:00 pm

Quote

Reply
i have that to look forward to on monday, might be off sick that day :D:D

Spongebob
Member
 

Joined: Thu Mar 27th, 2008
Location: Boycottland
Posts: 147
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Sat Apr 10th, 2010 10:15 pm

Quote

Reply
Looking on the bright side I suppose you were lucky it didn't try and suck its entire sump contents through the inlet system and blow itself to smithereens.

I had a turbo fail on a laguna I had and that was fun to get home as it tried to go from no revs to full revs as and when it pleased.

There's always the "it wasn't doing that before you lot got your hands on it" arguement to look forward to.;)

bimmer
Member
 

Joined: Fri Sep 4th, 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 478
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Sat Apr 10th, 2010 05:24 am

Quote

Reply
spongebob
i did the emisions and visual smoke test as per manual at start of test,
all was good, carried on with test, vehicle then put on rbt which is done
at the end of test. during brake test vehice started emmiting dense black
smoke so after brakes done carried out smoke test again and it failed.
it was later found that turbo had given way and put down to that.

Last edited on Sat Apr 10th, 2010 06:10 am by bimmer

Wesley
Trade Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2007
Location:  "Living The Dream", United Kingdom
Posts: 1641
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2010 11:51 pm

Quote

Reply
"What If"?:?

The Emissions test had been carried out towards the end of the inspection, prior to the rbt check routine?

As "SM" states,

"a good purge of the system" at higher revs prior to the emissions test might have been more appropriate?

If the vehicle "had" been left running for so long, then How were the rest of the "test procedures" eg; spinning of the wheels with ignition "off" carried out?:?

:P

Do We All now have to attend "law school" to carry out our daily business?:?

:X

Spongebob
Member
 

Joined: Thu Mar 27th, 2008
Location: Boycottland
Posts: 147
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Fri Apr 9th, 2010 11:23 pm

Quote

Reply
Was it dense blue or black smoke? The RFR is quite specific on this for petrols.

bimmer
Member
 

Joined: Fri Sep 4th, 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 478
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2010 06:30 pm

Quote

Reply
 hi
 i followed all the correct procedures and i can only tell you what vosa said to  me, they make the rules and we mere mortals just follow  them. :( on a brighter note found out today we are now in the green. :D

Last edited on Thu Apr 8th, 2010 06:33 pm by bimmer

Spunkymonkey
Member


Joined: Sat Jun 14th, 2008
Location: Holyhead, United Kingdom
Posts: 182
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2010 10:33 am

Quote

Reply
But the smoke test is started with a purge at high revs,  which is specifically to clear the nasties that build up when idling, so surely smoke appearing after extended idling shouldn't be a fail unless you purge again and it still smokes?

bimmer
Member
 

Joined: Fri Sep 4th, 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 478
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2010 06:56 am

Quote

Reply
hi
had one similar yesterday, vehicle passed emissions at start of test but at the end of the test during brake test on rbt it started to smoke, so followed procedure in manual for visual check of exhaust smoke and it failed. thought i would check with vosa just to cover my own back, so a quick call confirmed that a vehicle can pass the emissions test and fail the visual smoke check as they are two seperate testable items, their words not mine. hope this helps.

Last edited on Thu Apr 8th, 2010 07:05 am by bimmer

big..E.
Trade Member
 

Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008
Location: Um Bongo Um Bongo They Drink It In The, Congo
Posts: 684
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Thu Apr 8th, 2010 12:48 am

Quote

Reply
So it PASSED the emissions test and Failed on exessive Smoke?....:?..........

Last edited on Thu Apr 8th, 2010 12:50 am by big..E.

bimmer
Member
 

Joined: Fri Sep 4th, 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 478
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Wed Apr 7th, 2010 08:01 am

Quote

Reply
hi
wecome to the forum. there is no 30 minute tickover test, but the engine is left running while other parts of the test are done. if during this time the car starts emitting dense smoke it can fail. have a look at this link from the testers manual, right hand side. http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m3s07000302.htm

Jimcoted
Member
 

Joined: Wed Apr 7th, 2010
Location:  
Posts: 1
Status:  Offline
Mana: 
 Posted: Wed Apr 7th, 2010 07:45 am

Quote

Reply
Volvo 850 T5 tested for emissions on arrival and passed. Car was then left ticking over while they carried out the remainder of the test. After about 30 minutes the car started emiting smoke from the exhaust and he failed it for this. Drove it home and looked at exhaust and it was once again ticking over cleanly. Is this 30 minute tickover test allowed?


 Current time is 01:18 pm




Powered by WowBB 1.7 - Copyright © 2003-2006 Aycan Gulez
Page processed in 0.1895 seconds (15% database + 85% PHP). 18 queries executed.