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Clifford Pope
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Posted: Fri Jan 27th, 2012 07:16 am |
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Thank you for all your replies.
As you say, not my problem. At least I know now that probably it needs a new cat, which I find are not that expensive, so I'll do that myself soon.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 06:49 pm |
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yes we know that LOL
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 02:11 pm |
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Clifford Pope wrote:
Sorry, can you say all that in English please! I'm only a customer, not a tester versed in jargon and abbreviations. 
It's a simple matter Clifford - a VOSA VE will usually run off a few reports before doing a site visit - including a list of all recent test conducted at the site.
The testing station is required to keep all copies of MOT related emissions print-outs for three months. Of course they are also free to use the emissions tester for any other work without keeping records.
The VE - if he's got an ounce of common sense - will compare the list of tests against the emissions print outs & then start asking questions about the 'lost' ones ....
Oh - and a further reminder - there are active members of this site who are VOSA VE's 
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 12:46 pm |
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Yes our machine is pc based and it does keep a record of all tests carried out. It prints 2 copies of the results pass or fail, The testing station HAS to keep the print outs for at least 3 months. When your car is booked on an MOT test the times are logged by vosa so if theres any descrepency the man from vosa (VE) wants to see the print out if it's not there vehicle testing station (VTS) would get a rollocking. On our machine he can search it for a duplicate.
As for just checking emmisions or even brakes (RBT) while not being used for a test then i would select TEST mode on the emmissions log in screen to show that it was not an mot
As for not entering results thats why a copy is kept, this situation is not really your problem as you now have a pass certificate. I would be interested in other NT's or AE's comments. maybe the NT should have failed it on retest for emmisions and clipped both test reults together in thier records
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Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2012 07:29 am |
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Sorry, can you say all that in English please! I'm only a customer, not a tester versed in jargon and abbreviations.
Are you saying that the emissions testing machine retains a record of all tests it carries out, and relates these to the MOT test records held on-line? That it is not possible to carry out an emissions test and not post the results through to an MOT record?
If so, how does a garage carry out an emissions test independently of an MOT?
I have in the past simply taken a car in to a garage and asked them to check the emissions, in order to check that I had adjusted a carbuettor correctly. Nothing to do with an MOT.
After the first test the failure report listed only the wiper blade - the tester forgot to record the result of the emissions test. Are you saying that was technically impossible?
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2012 10:00 pm |
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Our emissions tester and RBT tester computer stores all the tests done on a file in the bowels of windows. We can also search this file for past tests even if the print out is not done or goes missing.
Also taests are numbered and date & time logged. I woul imagine if a VE finds a missing print out it's just a matter of looking in this file to the date and time a particular test was logged on VTS device and BINGO at least for him anyway
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2012 04:28 pm |
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I am fairy confident that VOSA's VE's wold not commit an omission in their duty of examining the records for the VTS, and there is something that VTS's don't know about their equipment to date that will drop them in it good and proper when the VE arrives for his visit.
When I mentioned it to the powers that be at the last Council Meeting, the AE's and NT's present at the time had a real picture on their faces, what a site to behold
The people in the scheme, if they are doing what Clifford Pope says on here won't be doing it too long and getting away with it
Technology is a fantastic piece of equipment, it can work for you and drop you in it when you choose to do it yourway
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2012 04:14 pm |
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Clifford Pope wrote:
I fitted a new air filter as advised, and it did improve the CO reading, but not quite enough to pass on retest this morning.
However, the twist is that I still got a pass because of the omitted reason for failure initially. Apparently the tester can only retest on the items causing a failure ( wiper blade not wiping sufficiently). Because the emissions failure had been omitted in error, there is apparently no mechanism for him re-testing them officially, so he issued a pass.
So that gives me a year to sort out the remaining problem. He said the most likely cause was indeed the catalyst loosing its efficiency.
By mutual agreement the emissions reports have been lost, and the tests never happened. An unexpected result, but I'm not complaining
Try explaing that to a VE
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2012 04:01 pm |
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Say what now??? thats not actually true!!
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2012 12:51 pm |
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Why was my thread closed?
Here is the update:
I fitted a new air filter as advised, and it did improve the CO reading, but not quite enough to pass on retest this morning.
However, the twist is that I still got a pass because of the omitted reason for failure initially. Apparently the tester can only retest on the items causing a failure ( wiper blade not wiping sufficiently). Because the emissions failure had been omitted in error, there is apparently no mechanism for him re-testing them officially, so he issued a pass.
So that gives me a year to sort out the remaining problem. He said the most likely cause was indeed the catalyst loosing its efficiency.
By mutual agreement the emissions reports have been lost, and the tests never happened. An unexpected result, but I'm not complaining
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