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nicknak
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Posted: Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 04:08 pm |
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If you failed the h/brake then thoes are not your points. The part where you say they wouldn't let you get it on record concerns me a bit is that wright? you will have 14 days in which to submit your reps when you get the letter, thats where you make good your concerns and mention the hand brake corrosion.
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townend81
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Posted: Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 01:16 pm |
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I dont mind saying, whats done is done, I messed up and will face the consequences. I'm in Inverness.
Well I had my three hour interview this morning. I'm not 'entirely' happy with it TBH. I'm not totally dis-satisfied but not over the moon. I'll give the guy his due, he made it as painless as possible and did everything he could to soften the blow. The main thing bothering me is the fact the vehicle in question wasn't there for me to see. He did take alot of pictures which showed alot of the bad stuff didn't answer many of the questions I had about it.
The main fail point was the panel on the end of the chassis rails that holds the number plate and lights etc. Mr VOSA was adamant that the panel under the tipper was welded on, whereas I was sure it was bolted on which is why I came to the desicion I did. He said it was a supporting panel to the chassis but I was always under the impression a bolted on panel wasn't supporting (i.e a bolted on front wing), I dont know, maybe i'm wrong, I cant think straight at the moment. I'm pretty sure I've tested a beaver tail transit and the panel isn't even there. I also checked the VSI during the test and this panel isn't shown on there either. I asked if we could see it in person to clarify but that was obviously impossible. He said they dont have the power to impound it. I tried to get the fact that I never got to see it in person into the interview but he was having none of it. He even went as far as to change one of the questions so I couldn't get it on the printed sheet. The other reason I wanted to see it is because I'm sure the gauge of the steel of the panel is alot thinner than would be expected of a supporting panel. Certainly thinner than the chassis. I dont know, maybe I'm wrong again. It probably doesn't even matter?
Four fail points straight away, 2 spring shackles, 2 towbar mounts.
The patch at the front was a total miss on my part. The van had airbags so the pretensioner unit was bolted to the seat. I thought it was bolted to the floor. There was a manky old bog roll and loads of other junk down there that I really should've moved in order to inspect properly.....but I didn't. There was a patch within 30 of the offside front mounting bolt. He said when he'd finished inspecting the rest of the step box, sill etc he said the corrosion led back to within 30cm of the other end of the seat belt mounted to the pillar. I wasn't there to see what happened although the picture looked pretty bad......
Two more fail points, seat belt prescribed area.
The last bit was corrosion on the handbrake mount area. Now this I had failed on the original test but the guy that repaired it (an actual MOT tester no less, Mr VOSA told me!) hadn't repaired it throughout the entire 30cm 'sphere' and there was a huge rust hole on the other side of the crossmember *shakes head*. This is the thing I dont understand, my boss did the re-test and never picked up on this even though I would've, but the guy at VOSA said it's still gonna land on my lap because the fault was present during the original test?
So 7 fails, and a potential 210 points in total. Happy days, not. I'll wait for a couple of weeks until the letter comes through and see what they say. I was thinking of leaving the trade a while back, now might be the perfect time.
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rocky69
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Posted: Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 10:53 am |
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I know what you mean with the transit, it in no way is structural, however it is within 30 cms of a prescribed area. Personally I think an advise would of been the right way to go. When the things are new, straight out of the box, they don't come with the panel on do they? I am not 100% sure but thats what I would be saying in my defence, so , that being the case how detremental is it, WHAT IS THE DETRIMENT TO ROAD SAFETY, get that question into your interview, and get them to reply.
What area are you in pm me if you don't want it broadcasting publicly.
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townend81
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Posted: Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 07:49 am |
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| Oh well, guess I'll be braving it alone then. I'll let you know the outcome.
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townend81
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Posted: Thu Oct 1st, 2009 10:21 pm |
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Had a call from my boss today. VOSA pulled in a transit tipper I MOT'd a couple of months ago and went to town on it. My boss had an interview this morning and mine is tomorrow morning at half 8. The original test was done by me and the re-test by my boss as I wasn't there. I haven't seen the van yet.
Anyway, The long and short of it is, the van was a shed. I had a list as long as my arm with the failures and advisories so had alot to concentrate on. The problem has arisen with the rear "light board". Now i checked the VSI during the MOT as I was querying this myself and it ISN'T shown to be part of the chassis on the picture. It is also only bolted to the back of the chassis. Not only that but it's also made of really thin steel. When the van came in originally, this board was seriously corroded and hanging off on one side. I only failed it for the lights etc being insecure.
Mr VOSA has said this unit is a structural crossmember and has 6 seperate failure items for it. Leaf spring shackles either side, towbar mounts either side etc.
My boss said there was one other patch at the front somewhere that was a seat belt mount prescribed area because the buckle was attached to the seat rather than the floor. I dont recall there being a hole present but I suppose I'll have to take that one as a miss accept the concequences but do any of you have any thoughts and the rear light board?
Thanks in advance.
Last edited on Fri Oct 2nd, 2009 07:51 am by townend81
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