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 Posted: Sat Jan 24th, 2009 10:33 pm
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that button that you press,you know the one,acknowledge special notice?it means you is supposed to read em as well....

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sept 07 now looking back, thanks.

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think that one came in a year ago october...

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new partial test comes in October
Where does one find out about new regs or did i miss this on the special notices!

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vosas opinion is that contamination is possible(their words not mine)and it has always been the case that you examine the defect/repair AND anything that could have been affected by that repair/s.as a for instance,tyre-hasnt left garage-has the guy jacking it up bent anything?is it a directional/size/type/wheelnuts missing/loose?this basic example shud show that free/minor item retests alone WILL cost us time+money.the above is a minor item but will still need to go in the air to examine underside for damage at the very least.different size/type/pressure cud lead to a brake imbalance being indicated.you see the problem(and the scope for time/equipment based disciplinierys etc)plus have you examined the advisories issued ten mins earlier...

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 Posted: Sat Jan 10th, 2009 03:30 pm
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Don't most front suspension legs now have two through bolts which can be removed to release the wheel hub assembly, and if the sliding caliper "Most are" is unbolted and hung out the way, the constant velocity joint gaitor can then be replaced without touching the bottom ball joint, at least that is how we do them.

If the vehicle leaves test station a tester may then wish to conduct a brake test because he wound not know the method of repair, ie brake pipe removal, but in your own workshop with your own staff, each person should know the others methods of working.

If the braking system has not been touched, then clearly there can be no difference to the brake performance test when retested, unless the disc is contaminated, then a fail anyway. I think VOSA are probably just covering themselves because they cannot foresee every different repair technique garages have, your own experience must prevail at the end of the day?

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Err doesn't the bottom ball joint come off on most cars? Not really essential to remove the disc or caliper unless room is severely restricted in my opinion. I can see what they mean if the vehicle is repaired elsewhere though as you've no way of knowing what's been undone and potentially left loose.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 9th, 2009 08:15 pm
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So how do you get the cv boot off without removing the disc and caliper or are you using those glued up cv boots. If removing disc and caliper I was told on my course that this is a major brake overhaul and requires RBT

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volksjim wrote: on average 15 mins..then again i am single person testing:P changing a cv boot you should carry out RBT even changing a coil spring the general jist of my conversation with my local "arrogant" VE is "if it's not a free retest item then RBT must be carried out":?

I thought the manual gave the correct advice when carrying out retests, something like;

When carrying out retests, check the failed items and anything that could be affected by the failed items, also check any previous advisory items.

Can a CV boot being changed affect the brakes?

I suppose one must look at the method of repair, we at our station never disconnect the brakes when changing CV boots, its not necessary, however if the vehicle has left the station for repair and then presented for retest, I then treat the retest differently, you never know what other people do when repairing vehicles.

By way of example we recently had a Rover 45 in for test and the parking brake efficiency did not meet the minimum requirements, the customer removed the vehicle had it repaired and represented for retest, the garage changed the brake pads and a caliper and never adjusted the parking brake lever?

We correctly adjusted the brakes in the correct order, the efficiency exceeded the minimum requirements to pass the test, we did not need to change any parts, but the garage changed a brake caliper and axle set of brake pads, only for the efficiency to fail again, costing the customers money which did not need to be spent.

Do the garage trade need licensing one must ask?

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There must be more votes than this? we only have 4!!!!

 

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 Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2008 11:42 pm
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guess i`d be  talkin to her longer, lol:D

seriously though, play the rules correctly, have the banter and enjoy!

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I mean't 10 mins from login to log out Wes...not like the "good ol dayz"...;) eh !!Go see a solicitor I bet you get charged from appointment time until you say goodbye to his secretary...even if you only spoke to him for two mins..lol..and thats without a cup of coffee.....

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headlamp aim, emissions, rbt, cup of coffee, 15mins? plenty.

what about vehicle repaired at vts? by another tester? BS Automotive Services Approval, Independent QC checks on any vehicle irrespective, mot or not!

Monthly mandatory QC checks, maybe more than once! and even time to deliver vehicles and round up afew stray pigs on return journey.

What an adventure!

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this is very confusing here..think someone needs to have a word with my local VE..points being awarded for incorrect test procedure what i have been told is" non free retest  item blue sheet and RBT to be carried out and results recorded ..we are watching this from local office"

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I have been told not to use fast track when retest items require the entry of any recordable result or the use of calibrated equipement, ie - brake test, emissions test or headlamp alignement.

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Fast pas if no metered test is carried out.

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so have i got this right.. no rbt no blue sheet ... straight to fast pass yeah?:?

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 Posted: Sat Mar 15th, 2008 04:51 pm
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on average 15 mins..then again i am single person testing:P changing a cv boot you should carry out RBT even changing a coil spring the general jist of my conversation with my local "arrogant" VE is "if it's not a free retest item then RBT must be carried out":?

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big..E. wrote: FULL retest or even partial would take more than ten minutes...MOT only hurts the wallett, dentists inflict physical pain and suffering and still hurt your wallett..".tinsnips" beware as far as VOSA  are concerned its not about "making money".. 
So How long does it take you to do a brake pipe inspection and RBT then? lol.:)

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partial retests and "blue sheets", apart from brake roller tests , what denotes another blue sheet on a retest over a fast pass??? volksjims been caught in a right grey area i think? any thoughts :)

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