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 Posted: Tue Jan 18th, 2011 11:15 pm
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optional wrote: Over 9 million people have never opened a homepage :P

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=8

A minor issue that the last government didn't envisage when they decided to invest millions into getting government departments online :)

Gotta laugh at the laser printers option - After years of vosa telling us laser printers are not sutiable for workshop environments, they suddenly now are.

"Apparently", with a "Technical Update" to the "VTS Device"..........? "Miracles"...........!:shock: Can be Performed!..........:P

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Over 9 million people have never opened a homepage :P

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=8

A minor issue that the last government didn't envisage when they decided to invest millions into getting government departments online :)

Gotta laugh at the laser printers option - After years of vosa telling us laser printers are not sutiable for workshop environments, they suddenly now are.

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Stealth wrote: I'll play devils advocate here - does it really matter if the VT20/VT30 is in colour - or plain black ink - as long as each document is identifiable ?

The MOT record is electronic - the certificate is effectively just a receipt - the same as you get at Tesco's for your weekly shop.
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At least the documents we use now look proffesional. That's why we don't use plain paper for the VT32s, mywotsits would be for sacrifice if I let us run out of the genuine article. We'll just have to wait and see what they have planned. If I remember correctly, when the contract is renewed in 2015 one possible option is not having any hardcopy. The customer would just have to go online and print one for himself if he desperately wants one so that would solve everything;)

 


 

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I'll play devils advocate here - does it really matter if the VT20/VT30 is in colour - or plain black ink - as long as each document is identifiable ?

The MOT record is electronic - the certificate is effectively just a receipt - the same as you get at Tesco's for your weekly shop.
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removalizer wrote: Ah Stealth its conspiracy theory time

Reducing standards on discs and headlights, its all adding up now plus 4-2-2


http://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/topics/vehicles/inspection/index_en.htm

 

Heavy work reading through some of the linked documents - but a standardised and more detailed test is proposed by the EC - which will cost more - the sweetner to the general public will be the reduction in frequency to 4-2-2 :shock:

 

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Ah Stealth its conspiracy theory time

Reducing standards on discs and headlights, its all adding up now plus 4-2-2

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Perhaps it's something to do with the proposals to have a standardised format for MOT certificates throughout the EC in the near future ;)

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My view it not the Government.

Most of these proposals are to save Siemens money over any savings VOSA will make. The Siemens/VOSA contract was a 10 year one. Assuming its due/nearly due for renewal I think Siemens have not made the profit they thought they would and are saying "This is what we want or else......"

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I estimate at least £300 per year on toner if its colour, based on using suppliers on google, God knows what Siemans will charge, wondered how long it would take the coalition to get round to us re cutbacks

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removalizer wrote: Don't like the idea of replacing the dot matrix printer with a laser, those lasers cost a fortune to run on tonerEspecially if they are going to use colour printers. If they don't customers are going to be confused with just black on white for pass, fail, advisory certs.

Also note: "Paper and Toner would be purchased via the MOT Catalogue on the VTS device". We know how much Siemens charge for any VTS components.

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If they want to charge for the phone line they can have it back and I'll plug back in to my original one

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Its not just the paperwok and printers, that they want to change, (their proposals), but all of the Major VTS, that "Qualify "for  a "Free" Phoneline. Will Now have to pay!:shock:

"Thank You, Sir",:(,  We "Siemmens" have for the last five years established ourselves in Your marketplace, and Now, wish to change things to be inline with the latest government proposals??:?

Or, Is It You "Greedy Peeps" searching to save an extortionate amount of your expense to make your "Profit and Loss" Sheets look "Good":shock: 

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Don't like the idea of replacing the dot matrix printer with a laser, those lasers cost a fortune to run on toner

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one of my old bosses has a storeroom full of paperwork.as he said "summit for free from this lot won't last forever" so simple answer would be to "stock up" when it's for  free:?

no doubt they will change the way the motcomp prints out so we can't use older paper work:shock:

so true about the measly amount of VT32's we receive per pack,,i just use plain paper from the office when they run out:P

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castrolrob wrote: volksjim wrote: so whats the general jist of this?? can't seem to open the file:?it loosely translates as siemens want to save money on the paper they send out to us(due to the amount of advisories we issue that they didnt anticipate)and as a result will be making us pay to upgrade/maintain the substandard equipment that they originally installed.fairly simple to decode really...

Not siemens on that particular item castrolrob. Only the package that comes with your computer slots is free. The extra 100 VT32s have to be paid for by your old mates VOSA. Which serves them bloody right since they were the ones who negotiated the package in the first place. Always wondered how they could keep telling us we should be advising everything to cover ourselves then get us 16 VT32s per 100 tests, then blame us for not telling them during the consultation period before computerisation started that we needed more. End of rant. I feel much better now:) 

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volksjim wrote: so whats the general jist of this?? can't seem to open the file:?it loosely translates as siemens want to save money on the paper they send out to us(due to the amount of advisories we issue that they didnt anticipate)and as a result will be making us pay to upgrade/maintain the substandard equipment that they originally installed.fairly simple to decode really...

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volksjim wrote: so whats the general jist of this?? can't seem to open the file:?
read your messages! then "Go Figure!":P

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so whats the general jist of this?? can't seem to open the file:?

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So, they save money by making us pay more!
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/publications/consultationsandresearch/consultationpapers/consultationpapers.htm

or, http://www.vosa.gov.uk/consultationpapers 

 
any views on this?

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