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 Posted: Wed Mar 21st, 2012 08:05 pm
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Tested my own 350 LC last week. Smoking as usual, Burning oil like theres no tommorow. No rear brake lamp!! No chain guards. No mirrors, although it does have a light switch! Only one rear footrest fitted!

 

It Passed.

 

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I always do with those Aprillias, Theyre better when fitted backwards anyway!!

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Good point. one bloke had taken his reg plate lamp off. ( Some bikes look better without them). He'd spent a lot of money on it.

Nice bike though.

Aapart from the handledbars which were bent!

And he'd snapped off his front brake lever leaving just a stub!

No BS numbers on the exhaust pipe either!

 

Yeah. It passed.. I charged him full whack though!!

 

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KevG wrote:
Ive been doing it for years.

Its the same with tyres.

If its not a big bike, as long as I can see some tread I pass it.

1mm of tread?

Thats 0.9 mm Too much in my opinion! Most people dont ride in the rain anyway.

 

 

 


Had an Aprilia once - tester passed it with a directional tyre fitted the wrong way round :?

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KevG wrote:
One had no brake lights at all 

That one passed.

One only had a brake light on the rear brake.

That one passed too.

Am I being too lenient stealth?

 


Did you fail any on registration plate lamps ?

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Ive been doing it for years.

Its the same with tyres.

If its not a big bike, as long as I can see some tread I pass it.

1mm of tread?

Thats 0.9 mm Too much in my opinion! Most people dont ride in the rain anyway.

 

 

 

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KevG wrote:
One had no brake lights at all 

That one passed.

One only had a brake light on the rear brake.

That one passed too.

Am I being too lenient stealth?

 


Lenient - I think that's just taking the p*ss :)

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One had no brake lights at all 

That one passed.

One only had a brake light on the rear brake.

That one passed too.

Am I being too lenient stealth?

 

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One had no lights at all!!

 

That passed too.

And one had lights but no indicators.!! The owner had removed them?

 

I passed that one as well!!!

 

LOL

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KevG wrote:
They did!!

 

Two of them had no front position light bulbs fitted!!

I passed them anyway. 

Who parks their bike on a road!

 

Kev

 


Who needs lights anyway ???

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Two of them had no high beam working

I passed them too.

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I am the AE  DOH!!!! theres a full stop after the word VOSA its at the bottom of the exclamation mark!

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Its only a bike !!

The headlamps are on all the time anyway!

Vosa wouldnt mind! I know the AE !!!

 

Kev


VOSA don't have an AE LOL:D

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Its only a bike !!

The headlamps are on all the time anyway!

Vosa wouldnt mind! I know the AE !!!

 

Kev

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KevG wrote:
They did!!

 

Two of them had no front position light bulbs fitted!!

I passed them anyway. 

Who parks their bike on a road!

 

Kev

 


I'm shocked by your leniency Kev ;)

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They did!!

 

Two of them had no front position light bulbs fitted!!

I passed them anyway. 

Who parks their bike on a road!

 

Kev

 

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KevG wrote:
We tested seven bikes today Stealth.

None of them had a light switch. None were Swedish!!!

Of course I immediatly got a fire extiguisher ready in case any of them burst into flames due to an electrical overload. So far ive not had to use it. Fingers crossed eh?




And every one of them broke the law by riding to MOT with their headlamps on !!!

 

 ;););)

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Proud to be professional wrote:
In other Countries it might be legal to drive in daylight with the headlamps on, but the last time I read anything in this Country I seem to remember it was not legal, which does not necessary mean the law might not have changed, but again in this Country I can see any valid point of driving in the daytime with the headlamps on!


A point for consideration David ....

A few years ago, a friend of mine was sent on a defensive driving course by his employer in order that the compnay could reduce it's insurance costs.

Along with the driving course, all the company cars had their dipped beam headlamps hardwired for daytime running visibility - recommended by the training provider & approved by the insurance company.

Food for thought ?

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We tested seven bikes today Stealth.

None of them had a light switch. None were Swedish!!!

Of course I immediatly got a fire extiguisher ready in case any of them burst into flames due to an electrical overload. So far I've not had to use it. Fingers crossed eh?

 

 

 

 

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Now where was we at?

Oh yes the operation of the light switch?

I said it was the same operation for both bikes and cars according to the manuals, so then if the lights are on all the time by design and VOSA say they should be switched on by the operation of the light switch, are you know going to say that I am going away from the original conversation, or can we now say that we have the authority to over rule VOSA and their rule book for mot's?

You can't have it both ways, so which is it?

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To follow this pedantic line of argument would mean that you would have to follow IM 1.7 - Method of Inspection 1, and Reason for Rejection 1 to it's natural conclusion & fail a vehicle for a headlamp switch being missing - even if one was not fitted originally by design & dipped beam was hard-wired.

That is - of course - if you don't want to over-rule VOSA
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