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 Posted: Sun Mar 16th, 2014 11:19 am
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DB9/davidg .........If you feel the need to make comments about the actions of moderators and admins on another forum then please take up your argument on THAT forum.

Please don't drag your squabbles over here.

 

Consider yourself 'Moderated'

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Was that really necessary DB9.

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One more tester giving the trade a bad name

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Grrr I really dislike testers that tell lies, ring Vosa & go for the appeal. You will have to pay up front for a new test but that is refunded if your case is upheld. The new fail is complete BS....:shock:

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Hi

Here is a link to download and print a VT17 appeal form.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-of-appeal-vt17

and here are the contact details of DVSA (new name for VOSA)

0300 123 9000

Fax 0117 954 3209

enquiries@vosa.gov.uk

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Thanks for the advice and information.

I suspected she hadn't even phoned VOSA but she was being awkward and that the advice on here was correct.

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rarefaction wrote:
Hi again.

Just an update. The van went for its retest today and they failed it again.

She told me that as the repairs had been covered, she phoned VOSA and they told her that she would have to fail the vehicle MOT as she was unable to inspect and verify the repairs.

She said the should have been left as bare weld. I pointed out that in the past week, it would have started to rust as it was parked outdoors. She said it wouldn't rust in that time and that there was no way she was allowed to pass it?

Your opinions/advice welcome

Many thanks,
Paul


I would go back there & tell them you want an appeal form as they have incorrectly failed your vehicle .
they say no underseal over the welding & they have to fail it , so what happens if you left it bare & they passed it , then you undersealed the repair .
1 year later when you take it for it's next test are they going to fail it then ?? I think not

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You phone vosa and ask them the same question, And you you will get an entirely different answer (the phone number will be in the garage reception on a poster with all other mot realated info)
As all the info that you have had on here is correct. Ie Undersealing welding is NOT a mot failure

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Hi again.

Just an update. The van went for its retest today and they failed it again.

She told me that as the repairs had been covered, she phoned VOSA and they told her that she would have to fail the vehicle MOT as she was unable to inspect and verify the repairs.

She said the should have been left as bare weld. I pointed out that in the past week, it would have started to rust as it was parked outdoors. She said it wouldn't rust in that time and that there was no way she was allowed to pass it?

Your opinions/advice welcome

Many thanks,
Paul

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advise would read "unable to assess repairs"or similar.had a refresher years ago where the instructor said to ask the guy concerned not to underseal etc,when i asked is this compulsory?the response was no but you can ask.not required and the tester concerned is definately pushing his luck.

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Many thanks

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Yeh. she cannot fail it for being under sealed

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Thanks very much for clarifying things for me.

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must test or retest as presented, if a vehicle has thick under seal when i test then i put advisories stating under vehicle has thick under seal preventing proper inspection, as a tester all i can do is pass and advise, ps we are not allowed to state no under seal.

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Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

I assume, therefore that if it's not obligatory, they would not have reason to fail it just because the repair has been covered?

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Well, i have asked for this before on re-test,(when removed for repair) but it is not obligatory or in the testers manual, maybe a coating of grey primer over the repair to stop rust for now to appease a zealous tester, ring them and explain your concerns!!
he/she obviously the weld quality and seamed all round good luck on re-test

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Hi,

My van failed its mot due to needing welding on the sill. The repair has been completed and I have booked the van back in for a retest next Tuesday.

The mot tester has told me that I must leave the repair uncovered and under no circumstances underseal or cover the welding or she will automatically fail the vehicle for an inadequate repair.

This seems a it harsh as by next Tuesday the repair will have started to rust as the van is left outdoors.

Any advice greatly appreciated

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