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| Posted: Fri Jul 24th, 2015 05:40 pm |
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castrolrob Trade Member
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Had another one Thursday,01 ldv.fella that owned it said he'd had it weighed and it was 2000kg so that was test weight we would be using.guess again dummy:dont matter how many curtains you hang on the windows of your former minibus,a couple of cushions and an old telly don't make it a camper
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| Posted: Thu Jul 23rd, 2015 08:14 pm |
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KevG Super Moderator 
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Loving the side windows scenario. PMSL
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21st, 2015 03:53 pm |
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castrolrob Trade Member
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As an aside this missive reaches you via the tablet I am currently practicing on at work to use this new not lark coming in,a first for me.doesn't appear to accept being rebooted with size 9 doc martens....I hate f***ing computers
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2015 08:48 pm |
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Aylesbury Jock Member 
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He's reliving all the lovely memories you brought back Stealth
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2015 08:08 pm |
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Stealth Super Moderator 
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castrolrob wrote:The last one I encountered had 1 passenger seat,previously class five with 12 seat belts on installation check record.had what appeared to be the tracks inside for wheelchairs etc so essentially an empty van with grooves in the floor and windows.seem to recall the guidance was along the lines of if it now has less seats than stated on installation check pass and advise,no minimum/maximum no of seats quoted.just ducking below the parapet.....OK,now you lot can open fire I've said my bit rob. It's all gone quiet in Manchester. 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15th, 2015 07:19 pm |
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castrolrob Trade Member
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The last one I encountered had 1 passenger seat,previously class five with 12 seat belts on installation check record.had what appeared to be the tracks inside for wheelchairs etc so essentially an empty van with grooves in the floor and windows.seem to recall the guidance was along the lines of if it now has less seats than stated on installation check pass and advise,no minimum/maximum no of seats quoted.just ducking below the parapet.....OK,now you lot can open fire
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 11:13 pm |
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Stealth Super Moderator
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afiafi1 stated in his first post that the last test was a Class 5 so it's highly unlikely that the GVW will be under 2500. There is no "van" in the MOT definitions other than living vans, only passenger vehicles or goods vehicles. As you state, vans and car derived vans are classed as goods vehicles. Your reference to vans with windows harks back to the days when your dad couldn't afford a car so he bought a cheap van, fitted an extra row of seats and windows and took your mum & the rest of the little DB9's to Blackpool for the annual weekly holiday but didn't notify DVLA because road tax for vans was also cheaper. Nothing to do with MOT test classes apart from the requirement in the dual purpose definition. 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 07:25 pm |
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DB9 Member
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Stealth wrote:DB9 wrote: No argument just wondering With regards to Only one seat, assuming it to be a passenger's seat, does the good book not say; A passenger carrying vehicle is one that is constructed or adapted for the carriage of passenger's, has NO MORE than 5 seats in addition to the drivers, and Has a maximum gross weight of 2500kg. A goods vehicle being a car derived van, van, pick up or truck. A van is not a van anymore once side facing windows are fitted
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 07:14 pm |
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Stealth Super Moderator
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castrolrob wrote:The funny bit is the not record showing say 15 seat belts approved on a motor with say 3 seats BTW David, afiaf1 never mention a previous number of seats. castrolrob referred to a previous record of 15 seats, presumably because he has encountered a similar scenario. Happy researching.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 06:37 pm |
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Stealth Super Moderator
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DB9 wrote:How does a 15 seater mini bus with seats removed and windows fitted become a goods vehicle? We test as presented. afiafi1 has stated it only has one seat so it can't be a minibus at the time of test. Mini buses by definition require a specified number of passenger seats. It can't be a living van as that requires some form of living accommodation as well as load carrying capacity. It can't be a dual purpose vehicle as that requires a second row of seats behind the driver. I presume the one seat referred to is the driver's seat. If it only has the one seat it cant be a passenger vehicle. Go look up the regs and give me a definitive answer, not an argument.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 05:55 pm |
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DB9 Member
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How does a 15 seater mini bus with seats removed and windows fitted become a goods vehicle? 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 9th, 2015 11:29 am |
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Stealth Super Moderator
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kit1958 wrote:We are required to test as presented, so I would test as class4, with an advise that seats had been removed. I might be inclined to test as Class 4/7 goods vehicle depending on GVW.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 8th, 2015 07:28 pm |
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castrolrob Trade Member
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The funny bit is the not record showing say 15 seat belts approved on a motor with say 3 seats
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| Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2014 08:01 pm |
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kit1958 Trade Member 
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We are required to test as presented, so I would test as class4, with an advise that seats had been removed.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2014 04:45 pm |
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afiafi1 Member
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you are presented a minibus with only one seat do you log on as a class 4, was tested as class 5 previus year with all seats
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