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 Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 03:47 pm
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That is true Kit, but the light isn't there to say there is a fault so we're still scuppered. As already said, pass and advise.

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castrolrob wrote:
lost count of the new corsas/Peugeots etc weve had in with em on,seems to take about 2-4 weeks from sale before they light up,nothing ever wrong with the pressures so folks are gonna just start ignoring em but like I said indicating a low pressure aint classed as a fault,pass and advise....
If the pressure is OK & the light is on then surely that is a fault with the system?

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 Posted: Mon Feb 22nd, 2016 07:13 am
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lost count of the new corsas/Peugeots etc weve had in with em on,seems to take about 2-4 weeks from sale before they light up,nothing ever wrong with the pressures so folks are gonna just start ignoring em but like I said indicating a low pressure aint classed as a fault,pass and advise....

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 Posted: Sun Feb 21st, 2016 04:18 pm
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Yes, I know that :D but I bet three tyres didn't spontaneously partially deflate. There's no point in fitting a system if it's just another pretty light on the dash for the driver to ignore.

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 Posted: Sun Feb 21st, 2016 02:28 pm
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As far as I know jock tpms are to monitor runflat tyre's because they look the same inflated or not & deflated tyres waste fuel ;)

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 Posted: Fri Feb 19th, 2016 03:55 pm
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Had one in today coincidentally. Orange warning lamp lit, but it came with a screen telling me which tyres were low in pressure. 3 out of 4. What is the point of having the bloomin system in the first place?

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 Posted: Thu Feb 18th, 2016 03:57 am
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but you then have to prove that for the vehicle concerned without the relevant tech info yes?or look in the owners handbook which probably aint there and which you don't generally have the 15 mins required for anyway...

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I remember someone saying it will light up orange for a tyre with low pressure, and red for a system fault.

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 Posted: Mon Feb 15th, 2016 11:42 am
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when we were first sent this out as a failure I queried it on a message to vosa via comp 1 voicing the below concerns,its essentially a p+a exercise like most of the stuff that came in with it...

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 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2016 03:22 am
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How do you tell the difference - that is a very good point.   If only there was some sort of readily available information for the vehicle being tested.

Some systems as well as showing the light may have an information display showing which tyre is low on pressure, which you can look at whilst doing the test.  The warning for a system fault may be different to the warning for low tyre pressure, the pressure warning may be a constant warning light and the system failure a flashing warning light, the owners hand book if available may verify this.

I can see this as potential for testers to fail a perfectly working system.

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Also bear in mind that it's only a fail if it's indicating a fault with the system.  If it's illuminated to indicate low pressure in a tyre, then it's working and shouldn't fail.

Err how do you tell the difference?

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 Posted: Sat Feb 13th, 2016 07:42 am
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Also bear in mind that it's only a fail if it's indicating a fault with the system.  If it's illuminated to indicate low pressure in a tyre, then it's working and shouldn't fail.

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Thanks everyone for your help.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2016 10:17 pm
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inky wrote:
The garage just rang to say it would fail if I did not get the tpms fixed. Have I been conned?

Yes inky, your car has been incorrectly failed. TPMS fail only applies to cars first used after 1st January 2012. Ask them to go read the Manual, and ask for an appeal form at the same time.

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The inspection manual at 4.1, page 6, says;

"The inspection of the tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS) only applies to passenger vehicles with:

four or more wheels

not more than 8 passenger seats excluding the drivers seat, and

first used on or after 1 January 2012"

Go back to the VTS and ask them to read the inspection manual!

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2016 08:50 pm
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The garage just rang to say it would fail if I did not get the tpms fixed. Have I been conned?

Last edited on Fri Feb 5th, 2016 08:51 pm by inky

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I think it will allow the fail. It's not that clever.

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2016 07:11 pm
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If your car is a 2010 Model. the mot computer will not let you fail the tpms, what exactly does your failure form say

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2016 07:08 pm
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It's a pass and advise

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 Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2016 07:07 pm
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Rules not changed,

You are right.

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