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castrolrob
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think the majority of the problem is that most(particularly pre 09) don't read anywhere near their plated limit and whats more never have done but up to this point no one had ever checked,have seen some with all the paperwork/history with identical smoke readings going back a decade or more,failed smoke,nuffing wrong with em except for a government directive.given that all we measure is soot and the pollutants causing the most problems(ie nox etc)are not even tested for by us you gotta admit its pretty laughable.except perhaps for the poor bastards that own em that the gvmnt seem to expect to just go out and buy a more modern vehicle that is:shock:i sincerely doubt that THEY are laughing one little bit:X

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:shock: effects everyone "This is asset-stripping like you have never known"

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Stuff changes for better or worse?... footie aint so bad :)

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I think the plate is when the system was new and all good working order but when an engine done 60+k and not been looked after I think most will fail on smoke so it will get van drivers too look after there engines more .but time will tell if it will work my fail rate has gone up now since new rfr .:shock:

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its not massively over is it?also somewhat unusual to have a vivaro that revs!check the basics first,air/fuel filters,is the egr jamming,how old is the oil?stuff like that,if all checks out ok take it out and wring its neck with maybe an injector conditioner or similar poured in first(preferably direct into the fuel filter) and given an hour or twos running to give it a fighting chance of having some sort of effect rather than pouring a bottle in and smoke testing it again instantly and being surprised by it still failing:shock:shame is this reading last year would be a fast pass as in better than normal,this year its a fail:Xto be honest the brake pipes are the main issue(assuming the balljoints don't fall off on his way home!)you say the smoke limit is low for this type of van?most have a plated limit of 0.50 or thereabouts,this ones limit is relatively high.

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yes it make good reading how will smoke be repaired its low for type of van

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the only improvements ive found are that you don't have to select front/rear for position lamps + 1 less screen to access em and greased brake pipes finally have an advise,look up oy60ukl for details......

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I do agree the system needs a good update to sort it out who ever made the rfr can not of ever mot a car because he would now how hard it is to dam find rfr

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this entire system should be listed under the nuisance section :)....:shock: Categories Body, chassis, structure Passenger compartment 6.2.1 (c) (ii) & (i) shud also be under Fuel system & Exhaust system Noise, emissions and leaks.

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yup and brake performance rfrs shouldn't require going thru 6 screens to access,headlamp beam pattern shud be a simple accessible failure,track rods/balljoints shouldn't be listed as"other items"link bar balljoints/covers etc shud all be on the same screen instead of listed separately before you ever get to a failure screen,this entire system should be listed under the nuisance section:shock:

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Fuel system & Exhaust system shud be under Noise, emissions and leaks.

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ok thanks for that will have a look next week now

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5.3.4 Suspension joints, pins and bushes?

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well been getting me head round the new layout stil get stuck on items and have to use the search box but can not find macpherson strut top bearing is it me or has it goen for good :?

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I total agree its now made me slower on it because I got to get to grips again .

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used it for the first time today,cant see what the advantages are if any,just gotta learn to navigate round a new setup after being used to the old one,combined with todays website f***up it made for an interesting day.what is it supposed to be improving?anyone?

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well today was my first time I used the new layout its ok does take time to read screen and open more boxes we will have to get use to and I expect it will change again..:P

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no surprise,cant take fails/advises most of the time either:shock:

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it went wrong system could not take the update :D

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Whoops.... didn't happen.

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well guys and girls we get the new layout tomorrow lets all hope it dam works got a lot to do :?



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