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Warning: A non-numeric value encountered in /home/motester/public_html/forums/lib.php on line 80

...anyone else getting the above when visiting this site or is it just me. cant be this...
https://www.mottesting.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/index.html
11 Categories, & if you separate

Identification of the vehicle
Brakes
Steering
Visibility
Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
Axles, wheels, tyres and suspension
Body, structure and attachments
Other equipment
Nuisance
Supplementary tests for buses and coaches
Seat belt installation checks


0 Identification of the vehicle
0.1 Registration plates
0.2 Vehicle identification number (VIN)

1 Brakes
1.1 Condition and operation
1.2 Service brake performance and efficiency
1.3 Secondary brake performance and efficiency
1.4 Parking brake performance and efficiency
1.5 Additional braking device (retarder) performance
1.6 Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
1.7 Electronic braking system (EBS)
1.8 Brake fluid

2 Steering
2.1 Mechanical condition
2.2 Steering wheel and column or handlebar, forks and yokes
2.3 Steering play
2.6 Electronic power steering (EPS)

3 Visibility
3.1 Field of vision
3.2 Condition of glass
3.3 View to rear
3.4 Windscreen wipers
3.5 Windscreen washers

4 Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
4.1 Headlamps
4.2 Front and rear position lamps, daytime running lamps and end-outline marker lamps
4.3 Stop lamps
4.4 Direction indicators and hazard warning lamps
4.5 Front and rear fog lamps
4.6 Reversing lamps
4.7 Rear registration plate lamps
4.8 Rear reflectors
4.9 ‘Tell-tales’ mandatory for lighting equipment
4.10 Trailer electrical socket
4.11 Electrical wiring
4.12 Battery(ies)

5 Axles, wheels, tyres and suspension
5.1 Axles
5.2 Wheels and tyres
5.3 Suspension

6 Body, structure and attachments
6.1 Structure and attachments
6.2 Body and interior

7 Other equipment
7.1 Seat belts and supplementary restraint systems (SRS)
7.3 Anti-theft device
7.7 Audible warning (horn)
7.8 Speedometer
7.10 Speed limiter (if required)
7.12 Electronic stability control (ESC)

8 Nuisance
8.1 Noise
8.2 Exhaust emissions
8.4 Other environmental items

9 Supplementary tests for buses and coaches
9.1 Doors
9.6 Passenger grab handles
9.7 Steps and stairs
10 Seat belt installation checks
10.1 Seat belt installation guidance notes

a significant step in the right direction would be to consolidate the above with
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/
15 Categories & if you separate…it gets numerically worse


Body, chassis, structure
Brakes
Buses and coaches supplementary tests
Identification of the vehicle
Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
Noise, emissions and leaks
Non-component advisories
Road wheels
Seat belt installation check
Seat belts and supplementary restraint systems
Speedometer and speed limiter
Steering
Suspension
Tyres
Visibility

MOTman, martins, KevG, bimmer, anyone why does Warning: A non-numeric value encountered in /home/motester/public_html/forums/lib.php on line 80 keep appearing?

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FORD GALAXY 04 plate.. Offside Front Macpherson strut pin or bush likely to become detached wheel bearing not checked (5.3.4 (a) (ii).. was best could do.
Advised the Nearside Front Macpherson strut, wheel clear of the ground, has vertical and lateral and longitudinal play at top mount within allowed limits.. my point is o/s/f was detached bonding had given way & no RfR (except what I have aforementioned stated), had the same on bmw few weeks back, on that one it was on both sides.

Offside Front suspension upper arm has inadequate clearance with bump stop (on a VW) advisory.. were is the RfR for that

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[Julia (DVSA) posted 17 April 2019
Hi Derek
Allowing testers to record plate values would not be deemed a reliable source for future tests.
We’re exploring options for obtaining specific vehicle data from the various manufacturers..

reliable source?.we can input brake weights so why not emissions value? kinda understand the politics of all this but we are REALLY REALLY FED UP WITH BREATHING THE RESULTANT sh1tE!

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https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/spring-mot-horror-stories/
Fantastic failure, Rock bottom result, Bald ambition, What a cracker! and A big thank you
&
https://autotechnician.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Autotechnician-April-2019.pdf
page 37..
Since May, things have not been standing still. A number of
technicians admitted that, while it has taken some time to
adapt to the new system, they felt well-supported by the DVSA.
Comments from disgruntled professionals on the Agency's
own 'Matters of Testing' blog, however, reveal that some testers are not so happy.
:shock:

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if you wanna real chuckle try passing an 09 merc with a smoke limit of 3.20,dunno about you but I dunno ANY approved meters thatll accept THAT as a limit!oh well,back to the coalface,hi ho hi ho its back to work I go,feels like we shud be working for disneys:shock:

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comical & daft

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yeah,it was comical when I read that,lets stick it next to assessing the effect of deteriorated no plates on anpr cameras with inspection eqpmnt consisting of eyeballs shall we?what was wrong with 10 mm zone a,40mm in the rest of the swept area?simple,unequivocal,easy.nope,too easy so lets make it more complex.the depts being run by a bunch of low grade morons:shock:have lost count of the passes ive had to issue with screens cracked to f***:shock:

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when in direct sunlight or 'at' night

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A "publication" is exactly what it says, an article produced for public consumption so clearly no breach of Date Protection..

Here’s a thought. You’ve bought a service contract with, say, British Gas. The contract is for an emergency service if your heating system breaks down, and free annual servicing as part of the deal. Then you’re told that whilst payments won’t change, you must now pay for that annual service, and if your heating breaks down it will be a week before its fixed because their engineers are working on commercial contracts. At the same time you hear that British Gas make bumper profits. What would you do? You’d be on Google straight away to find an alternative service provider.

Now look at the MOT. DVSA haven’t delivered on their service to Testing Stations for years. Risk assessment visits are delayed by years because Vehicle Examiners allocated to the MOT Scheme have been diverted to HGV Testing, or used to catch up with planned roadside vehicle checks. There’s delays on the help line and training, historically provided by DVSA from the pad fee, must now be purchased from commercial training providers.

When the MOT was first computerised the Government unambiguously pledged that it wouldn’t cost Testing Stations a penny. Yet now we pay for the computer, the printer, print cartridges, paper and the internet connection. Yet the MOT fee hasn’t increased to account for those and other extra costs – frozen since 2010. It’s not as if DVSA can’t afford more staff, they’re making bumper profits from our slot fees.

Look at these numbers...DVSA/VOSA’s MOT profiteering MOT Profit DVSA net/ loss profit/ loss without MOT £M£M£M
2013/14 (VOSA) 5.72 13.45 7.73
2014/15 (VOSA) 12.05 1.35(loss )13.8 loss
2015/16 (DVSA) 12.28 11.98 0.3 loss 2016/17 (DVSA) 27.79 30.66 2.872017/18 (DVSA) 26.23 13.82 12.41 loss Total 84.0768.5615.91 loss.

These figures illustrate that without the MOT Scheme’s profit, over the last five years, DVSA/VOSA was not financially viable, making a £15.91M loss. The £84.07M MOT profit over the last five years is effectively an unlegislated tax on Testing Stations. Theoretically DVSA aren’t allowed to cross subsidise their different activities – but they do! Set against this, DVSA’s Chief, Gareth Llewellyn remains totally silent on the MOT, except to pledge to a Parliamentary Committee that at some unspecified future date vehicles will fail the MOT if there is an outstanding safety recall which hasn’t been fixed. He’s obviously unconcerned about the operation of the Scheme, or the interests of 23,000 Testing Stations, 50,000 Testers and others employed in MOT Testing. He’s an invisible man behind the scenes overseeing what is frankly an unacceptably poor performance regarding DVSA’s provision of a service to Testing Stations. But we can’t ‘Google’ to find a different supplier, DVSA have a monopoly and do what they like. Testing Stations providing DVSA’s MOT funding have no recourse whatsoever when their money is spent to support DVSA’s loss making activities. It is, frankly, scandalous

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thatll be because we are now paying for the ink,paper,computers,training,broadband etc etc.cutting costs is a piece of piss if all you are gonna do is hand off the costs to some other poor bastard.who are we supposed to hand em off to?the public?with no fee rise in a decade?with Halfords doing an mot for a bulb?answers on the back of a postage stamp in capital lettere c/o dvsa@wef***edupandthenshaftedyousuckers.com:shock:

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The per-test processing cost of running the MOT testing service – about 42 million tests are carried out annually – is now less than £0.30, compared with £1.05 before the launch of the online service.

https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252453817/Open-minded-DVSA-cuts-cost-of-MOT-testing

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Health & Safety
RAG's and COPD, how to sort diesel emissions holding a rag over the exhaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzs_NviVGsM
stand to the side of the motor & do it at arms length.

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youre in deep do do:shock: think i know what you mean aint an extinct bird yet. We got Kainos to attend (less they already done so) a trade mission to the US with UK’s Department for International Trade to showcase leadership in artificial intelligence (read full article.. https://www.kainos.com/kainos-attend-trade-mission-us-uks-department-international-trade-showcase-leadership-artificial-intelligence/), following their Machine Learning Project of the Year Award, for work done with the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) and dont forget MOT testing data released.. A total of 428,160 petrol (6.14%) and 202,564 diesel (3.63%) cars failed the new emissions test.
The new test also saw a 445% increase in the number of diesel vans failing emission tests, increasing from 3,029 in 2017 to 16,496 in 2018.
whilst we as testers are left with RAG's and COPD

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was replying to stealth,re brake my point was that given the linings binding are also service brake then fail that for binding cos if youre hoping loopholes like this get closed anytime soon youre in deep do do:shock:

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being boring what pm never got one. hoping -FRYING TONITE went without hitch..
service brake was not binding.. underside saw caliper handbrake lever stuck in the on position whilst the lever was worked from top side & on completing the underside inspection demonstrated to owner presenter the said problem by moving the caliper lever to the off position prior to this whilst checking the bearing on the associated wheel it was freewheeling no bind.
On the rbt service effort was fine, recorded it, then AFTER applied park brake.. there was effort but then it didnt release fully ie it was binding.
Being specific the service brake was not at fault it was the park side of it that had the issue. hear what you say fail it on service brake binding ok..but it aint being specific

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message received guy,no bother:Dits starting to get boring anyway,repetition always does,ref also your pm

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Stealth the above is a cut & paste from the said 'trade publication' does this breach data protection?


Section B of the Testing Guide gents..

a. Do not give another person information that they would not otherwise have access to, this includes test result information.

Plain and clear enough in my opinion. Publishing registrations on public forums clearly breaches the above.

A "publication" is exactly what it says, an article produced for public consumption so clearly no breach of Date Protection.

Copyright could be a whole new issue Paul, but we are not going to go there.

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Testing Times we report about the failure rate since the new Manual took effect last May. At the same time we asked DVSA about how many vehicles failed with ‘Dangerous’ defects – and found that when extrapolated to a full year, that would be more than two and a half million vehicles. What an astonishing vindication of the need for the MOT Test. Yet that is only one of a number of reasons that the MOT should never be reduced from the current annual inspection

Stealth the above is a cut & paste from the said 'trade publication' does this breach data protection?

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yup and ive already written some of it up as my cpd:Das in how not to do it:D:Ddidnt see a lot else about it on the link they gave us:shock:

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Data Protection gents.

As testers you could be liable for publishing details of MOT test results to the general public.

As a forum attached to a trade publication, the owners could also be called to account.


Please refrain from posting vehicle registration in future.

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