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 Posted: Mon Sep 17th, 2018 07:39 pm
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https://www.mottesting.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/index.html
11 Categories, & if you separate

Identification of the vehicle
Brakes
Steering
Visibility
Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
Axles, wheels, tyres and suspension
Body, structure and attachments
Other equipment
Nuisance
Supplementary tests for buses and coaches
Seat belt installation checks


0 Identification of the vehicle
0.1 Registration plates
0.2 Vehicle identification number (VIN)

1 Brakes
1.1 Condition and operation
1.2 Service brake performance and efficiency
1.3 Secondary brake performance and efficiency
1.4 Parking brake performance and efficiency
1.5 Additional braking device (retarder) performance
1.6 Anti-lock braking system (ABS)
1.7 Electronic braking system (EBS)
1.8 Brake fluid

2 Steering
2.1 Mechanical condition
2.2 Steering wheel and column or handlebar, forks and yokes
2.3 Steering play
2.6 Electronic power steering (EPS)

3 Visibility
3.1 Field of vision
3.2 Condition of glass
3.3 View to rear
3.4 Windscreen wipers
3.5 Windscreen washers

4 Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
4.1 Headlamps
4.2 Front and rear position lamps, daytime running lamps and end-outline marker lamps
4.3 Stop lamps
4.4 Direction indicators and hazard warning lamps
4.5 Front and rear fog lamps
4.6 Reversing lamps
4.7 Rear registration plate lamps
4.8 Rear reflectors
4.9 ‘Tell-tales’ mandatory for lighting equipment
4.10 Trailer electrical socket
4.11 Electrical wiring
4.12 Battery(ies)

5 Axles, wheels, tyres and suspension
5.1 Axles
5.2 Wheels and tyres
5.3 Suspension

6 Body, structure and attachments
6.1 Structure and attachments
6.2 Body and interior

7 Other equipment
7.1 Seat belts and supplementary restraint systems (SRS)
7.3 Anti-theft device
7.7 Audible warning (horn)
7.8 Speedometer
7.10 Speed limiter (if required)
7.12 Electronic stability control (ESC)

8 Nuisance
8.1 Noise
8.2 Exhaust emissions
8.4 Other environmental items

9 Supplementary tests for buses and coaches
9.1 Doors
9.6 Passenger grab handles
9.7 Steps and stairs
10 Seat belt installation checks
10.1 Seat belt installation guidance notes

a significant step in the right direction would be to consolidate the above with
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/
15 Categories & if you separate…it gets numerically worse


Body, chassis, structure
Brakes
Buses and coaches supplementary tests
Identification of the vehicle
Lamps, reflectors and electrical equipment
Noise, emissions and leaks
Non-component advisories
Road wheels
Seat belt installation check
Seat belts and supplementary restraint systems
Speedometer and speed limiter
Steering
Suspension
Tyres
Visibility

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if you use the search function you wont even see that screen.. agreed get
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/class3457/index.html

a significant step in the right direction would be to consolidate the above with
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/

& hopefully you wont of retired before they sort it

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yup,already had that but now its sorta come back to life,slow but working:?

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todays contingency code E5276E96

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locking devices is another,i use the search function rather than scoll thru(lets say)brakes,5 screens to get what you need,type lag/bind in and youre there instantly cos they are about the only ones you use right?type track in and all the track rod end fails come up,no securing device fail?oh well p+a.if you go thru the steering screen theres one for locking devices for(I think)steering linkage components and securing devices is on there tho seems a bit of a stretch and I only found it by accident cos if you use the search function you wont even see that screen.still aint found any lock devices for suspension ball joints tho,closest ive seen is likely to become detached but that's utterly inappropriate in most cases tho its also possible that theres yet another item/screen I aint noticed yet:shock:

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and now its gone,yesterday I had both worn to indicator and warning light,gone to use it today and warning light looks gone.am I going senile? :shock::shock::shock::shock:

still the same in training rob, loged out & in to make sure

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Brake linings and pads
you gotta go into 'Brake lining(s)' to get.. worn down to wear indicator

then come out & go into 'pads' to get.. brake lining or pad wear indicator illuminated

significant step in the right direction:?

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I see what you mean,log out,log back in again and up they come,to go back to your horn,not working properly is a minor,how do they define not working properly?harsh?grating?not loud enuff?2 tone?come on,throw us a bone for f***s sake:shock:

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why?:shock: forgot to start a new test in training was reason couldnt see the changes.

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you sound surprised that we are being asked to hit the ground running without actually being able to test/try/train these new items beforehand.why?:shock:

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Reminder: changes to the MOT inspection manual today ..
just been into Training
Practice on any class of vehicle without using slots or recording the outcome .. aint no changes there hey ho fly-by-wire

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some of em are a LOT ambiguous,pad worn to indicator?surely thatll have the light on anyway even assuming you can see it in the first place,have advised about half a dozen motors so far that the wear indicator aint even attached to the pad but hey that's fine,horn not in accordance with the reqmnts?what reqmnts would that be then?the ones that say not loud enuff to be heard is a minor?the ones that say sirens ok?headlights not in accordance with rqmnts?dont get me wrong its a start but that's all it is and at this pace I will have retired before they sort it all out,6 mnths so far and counting to reword the stuff that we warned about before it was even introduced?unacceptable.

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Got to say the latest updates are a significant step in the right direction, it's not perfect but it will never please everyone. Neither is it meant to. ;)

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Paul S wrote:
Stealth the number of post I have done has gone up by one yet my last one has doubled seem to be repeating myself :cool:

Fixed that for you Paul. Are you posting from your phone ?

I get double posts sometimes when using mine.

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Stealth having got past D day Prescribed area excessively corroded, significantly reduced structural strength
5.3.6 (a) (i) or Prescribed area corroded, not considered excessive

I aint a judge... theres a hole & never used my thumb or forefinger but choice as above is this fair? Would not Prescribed area corroded, not considered excessive & NOT REDUCING STRUCTURAL STRENGTH be appropriate?


You have to take the info in the Appendix into consideration too Paul. ANY corrosion within a prescribed area which results in a hole is considered to have significantly weakened the structure.

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Stealth the number of post I have done has gone up by one yet my last one has doubled seem to be repeating myself :cool:

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From the current blog.. For example, previously, when testing the horn on a vehicle, you would need to choose the reason why it failed. We’ve now consolidated the reasons to make it clearer. So you’ll only need to choose the option that the ‘horn no longer meets requirements’.

Audible warning:
7.7.c.i sound not in accordance with requirements
Minor

just being pedantic

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Stealth having got past D day Prescribed area excessively corroded, significantly reduced structural strength
5.3.6 (a) (i) or Prescribed area corroded, not considered excessive

I aint a judge... theres a hole & never used my thumb or forefinger but choice as above is this fair? Would not Prescribed area corroded, not considered excessive & NOT REDUCING STRUCTURAL STRENGTH be appropriate?

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think they mentioned this very fault on the mot blog a few months back and I suggested putting it on vsi or similar if its a widespread problem,never did get a reply

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