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 Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2018 12:09 pm
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have given up even bothering with any ministry publications/blogs etc.yes I know it sounds defeatist but I am sick of completely wasting my time.take a look at the other forum with Olivia from dvsa advising presenters they can drive no probs with major defects if you wanna lighten your mood a little:shock:

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 Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2018 11:22 am
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Current Matters of Testing Blog...Neil Barlow posted on 24 April 2018
Hi Mike. Which change is confusing? Happy to clarify.

In reply to...21 April 2018
Utterly daft changes and extremely confusing to my mind. Will these changes actually improve road safety and reduce road deaths?

opportunity to snag all these problems!!!

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Lighten up Paul....I'll add some smileys for you.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 07:17 pm
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wasnt mythering!!! THE 'DRAUGHT' VERSION seems to be changing cause they need our help & therefore could they not move D day give us all a bit more time

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 07:10 pm
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Paul S wrote:
The draft version:)

Predictive text. Stop mythering I've put it right.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 07:01 pm
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Could they not move D day give us all a bit more time...

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 06:50 pm
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The draft version:)

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 05:50 pm
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The draft version seems to be changing every day just now. We will only know for sure on D day....

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 Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2018 04:11 pm
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if that bothers you don't look at horn not loud enuff to be heard by another road user minor defect,makes it sorta pointless even having one don't it?electrical wiring for brakes disconnected(and I gotta assume this includes wear sensors)MAJOR DEFCT!

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Damaged (in excess of 10mm, 40mm etc) not adversely affecting driver's view Minor defect... would clear up any confusion

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judging by the new manual you tick the minor box that says damaged but not seriously affecting drivers view,couldnt see any max/min damage limits either

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So is it safe to say...If there is damage in zone in excess of 10mm, in addition to further damage in the remainder of swept area in excess of 40mm, & when this damage is viewed from the drivers seat I dont see the bonnet (or the sky?) can I manually advise...windscreen Damaged, not adversely affecting driver's view?

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Hey Ho, Check for:
• damage in windscreen zone A more than 10mm in diameter
• damage in the remainder of the windscreen's swept area more than 40mm in diameter...
Failure for damage is only justified if the damage significantly affects the driver’s view of the road???

Quote 'Morning
As this is a standards issue I have forwarded it to their team for a response.
As I understood it though the extra line was added due to many failures for damage greater than 10mm for example but when in the drivers seat the effect was minimal and the driver had a perfectly good view. So it was difficult to justify a fail.
If you had damage less than 10mm then that size was deemed so small that it would not affect view enough anyway.
But I will await standards response and send on to you.
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SO THE STANDARD IS?.. Zone A In excess of 10mm but not significantly affecting the driver’s view of the road...Is this then a minor? CAN I advise?

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 Posted: Wed Apr 18th, 2018 05:01 pm
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its no different to how its always been,theyre just writing it in larger print.we cant stop em driving with dangerous on the ticket,never could,never have,never will.

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last time I looked it over I noticed a few bits missing like hydraulic hand brake no mention of it maybe they removed it because of the 40 year rule.
I think its going to be interesting for a few months while we get used to it hopefully the training will help when that's live on the 20th of april.
has any one got any suggestions on telling people they can't drive the car with a dangerous defect. How will testing only stations manage maybe we should have a disclaimer poster

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 Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2018 12:02 pm
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so the moral of this story is build/buy an old kit car with none of the modern rubbish or exempt from it and run it till retirement cos as far as I can tell the regs are designed to make it non viable to run most modern stuff past about 10/12yrs,still by that point I/c engines will probably have been banned anyway and we will all be leasing driverless hydrogen motors.wanted to get into electronics etc when I left school as all the government projections back then said the oil would have run out by now and I figured electric was the obvious alternative and wanted to get in at the ground level,sorta glad it didn't happen now:shock:

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 Posted: Fri Apr 13th, 2018 07:58 pm
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After some 27 years in roadside enforcement I've learned to remain impartial as far as legislation is concerned Paul.

Fair or not this was passed & rubber stamped in 2014 & we have to live with it.

Legislation will continue to include more & more electronics & so called driver aids in future.

For an interesting read try looking up the EU proposals on Anti Tamper legislation on powertrains.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 13th, 2018 06:39 pm
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Stealth failing an engine management light staying on is not fair on the basis it passes the smoke or emission test what do you think?

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 Posted: Fri Apr 6th, 2018 07:09 pm
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The New Testing Guide & to quote a Biker 'It doesn't specify what brake fluid should consist of so any fluid you put in that operates the brakes is in that case "brake fluid".
Can of worms anyone ?
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/899994/Alfa-Romeo-Giulia-Stelvio-recall-brake-fluid
"Vehicles with contaminated brake fluid may experience decreased braking performance when depressing the brake pedal. This defect may, in certain cases, cause a vehicle crash without prior warning.

“Decreased brake performance may provide some warning prior to a failure. In the case of brake failure, a warning light will appear on the Electronic Vehicle Information Center providing limited warning.”
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Brake fluid warning lamp illuminated or inoperative...Defect that from 20th May will no longer cause an MOT test fail

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Defect that no longer cause an MOT test fail: master cylinder cap missing.
New item that you will test from 20 May 2018 are: brake fluid contamination.

THIS IS A CONTRADICTION as brake fluid is hygroscopic & therefore will be contaminated if the cap is missing further & without speculating there would be the potential of an imminent risk of failure if this cap was not in place. How then can a tester be expected to 'Minor' it or advise knowing the role brake fluid plays?..or are they expected to just fail 'Major' or 'Dangerous' it under contamination?

To add salt to injury 'brake fluid level below the minimum mark' is a 'Minor' advise?

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